The Second Annual Too Fat 4 The Oscars Pick-A-Palooza
Greetings from Too Fat headquarters. It's that time of year again. The movie nerd Super Bowl otherwise known as The Academy Awards. I've invited Adam Howard back to go toe to toe with me as we pick our Oscar winners. It's not as crazy as last year's 6 million word magnum opus. We'll be sticking to the 4 acting categories, directing, and best picture.
BW
Hi Adam,
Sorry it's taken me so long to put this together. I've been lazy this year (and I haven't seen nearly enough movies). I'm going to keep it short and hit up the big categories. The time has finally come. The movie nerd Super Bowl is here, so let's waste no more time and get right to it.
The rules are the same as last year. We'll rifle through the (major) categories and give our picks for who we think will win, who should win, and any possible upsets.
Unlike the actual Oscar telecast, we'll keep this short and sweet. We'll tackle the major categories (acting, directing, picture). First up is Supporting Actor.
And the nominees are:
Robert Duvall - The Judge
Ethan Hawke - Boyhood
Edward Norton - Birdman
Mark Ruffalo - Foxcatcher
J.K. Simmons - Whiplash
Who Will Win: JK Simmons. This is about as big of a slam dunk as there has been in recent years. Simmons brilliant portrayal of an intense music teacher has already earned him a boatload of awards including a SAG and Golden Globe. He wins the big one this Sunday.
Who Should Win: Simmons. He's a great actor who is finally getting his due. This was the role of a lifetime and he nailed it.
Darkhorse: I don't think there will be any upsets, but if I had to pick one, my guess would be Edward Norton in Birdman. Our boy Michael Keaton (deservedly) gets all the love for his brilliant performance, but Edward Norton also gives a hell of a performance. Still, I think this is J.K. Simmons' category, and there's no stopping him. Another performance that I really loved is Ethan Hawke in my favorite movie of the year, Boyhood. He was so real and relate-able in that role. I would like to see him get a little more love.
How about you? Who takes home your supporting Oscar?
AH
Now I must apologize for the delayed response. I just moved yesterday so I am just getting my senses back as well as my Internet. I can't believe the Oscars are just a few days away so we should get cracking.
Looking at Best Supporting Actor, this is always one of my favorite categories and it's one of the few that you can with for playing a villain or comedic role or just generally chewing the scenery. And let's face it because the sexist Hollywood power structure always come up with meatier roles for men, these actors often have more screen time and better roles than their female peers in leading categories.
This year's crop is pretty strong save for Robert Duvall, a great actor who seems to be getting a nod for just staying in the game this long.
Who will win: JK Simmons
I think you're spot on in your assessment -- he's won every precursor ever out there, the movie had a strong showing at the nominations despite being a small movie that few people have seen
Who should win: JK Simmons
Simmons is the straw that stirs the drink in this film, he is just riveting and hilarious and scary ("Not my tempo.") I loved the performances of Hawke, Norton and Ruffalo a lot, but their time will come.
Dark Horse: Sometimes supporting races can take a shocking left turn and a surefire lock can get upset on Oscar night. I agree with you that if anyone can pull it off it's Norton, one our greatest actors who has never won, and his hilarious, self deprecating work in Birdman is a revelation.
Looking at Best Supporting Actor, this is always one of my favorite categories and it's one of the few that you can with for playing a villain or comedic role or just generally chewing the scenery. And let's face it because the sexist Hollywood power structure always come up with meatier roles for men, these actors often have more screen time and better roles than their female peers in leading categories.
This year's crop is pretty strong save for Robert Duvall, a great actor who seems to be getting a nod for just staying in the game this long.
Who will win: JK Simmons
I think you're spot on in your assessment -- he's won every precursor ever out there, the movie had a strong showing at the nominations despite being a small movie that few people have seen
Who should win: JK Simmons
Simmons is the straw that stirs the drink in this film, he is just riveting and hilarious and scary ("Not my tempo.") I loved the performances of Hawke, Norton and Ruffalo a lot, but their time will come.
Dark Horse: Sometimes supporting races can take a shocking left turn and a surefire lock can get upset on Oscar night. I agree with you that if anyone can pull it off it's Norton, one our greatest actors who has never won, and his hilarious, self deprecating work in Birdman is a revelation.
BW
No worries. Congrats on the big move. I'm loving the pictures that are popping up online of the new place.
The next category up is for Supporting Actress. Can you agree with me that it hasn't been the strongest year for women in terms of roles? Not that there haven't been strong performances this year by women, but rather these performances almost feel like an afterthought. There isn't really a breakout performance by a woman this year. I haven't seen Into The Woods, but it feels like Merryl Streep is nominated because they needed a 5th person in this category. Not to mention the giant elephant in the room that there wasn't a single person of color nominated for acting this year. I know many words have been written on the subject, but I can't get over the Selma snub. My only hope is that we're living in a dream world and will wake up on Sunday to see Selma get its proper due.
With that being said, here are the nominees:
Patricia Arquette - Boyhood
Laura Dern - Wild
Keira Knightley - The Imitation Game
Emma Stone - Birdman
Meryl Streep - Obligatory Nomination (Kidding, It's for Into The Woods)
Who Will Win: Patricia Arquette
I think this is another runaway victory. Arquette gave a brilliant performance as the mother of two children in Boyhood. I'm amazed that these actors were able to seamlessly jump into their characters and deliver such wonderful performances, while filming for one or two weekends a year over twelve years. She was incredible as a mother trying to hold her family together while dealing with her own personal struggles and growth. I absolutely loved this performance and I think she takes home the statue.
Who Should Win: Patricia Arquette
She is the back bone that holds this movie together, and should deservedly win the Oscar.
Dark Horse: Emma Stone
This feels like a two person race. I think there's a chance Emma Stone could make a late charge for her performance in Birdman. The other three nominees should just be happy to be along for the ride.
Do you see Arquette taking home the gold, or do you smell an upset?
AH
Saying this year was weak year for women's roles is an understatement, it was a terrible year -- although I would argue there was one truly phenomenal breakout woman's performance for me -- and that was Scarlett Johansson in Under the Skin. It's not the kind of movie that gets Oscar nominations -- it;s just too weird, but the role was unlike anything I've ever seen, and this actress -- who is known more for tabloid fodder than talent, knocked it out of the park -- but again, I digress.
Dark horse: Laura Dern has been an outstanding character actress for decades and I could see Oscar rewarding her here in what would be one of the biggest upsets in years. I haven't seen Wild but I know for a fact it has its passionate defenders and Dern is riding a wave of appreciation for her and family's acting dynasty. Still, I am sure Arquette will emerge victorious.
Bradley Cooper - Not Selma (American Sniper)
Benedict Cumberbatch - The Imitation Game
Michael Keaton - Birdman
Eddie Redmayne - The Theory Of Everything
Who Will Win: Eddie Redmayne
I'm calling the first big upset of the night. Redmayne came away with the SAG Award for his performance as Stephen Hawking, and the SAG winner has gone on to win the Oscar in the past 10 years or so. He wins it here.
Who Should Win: Michael Keaton
Come on Oscar! Give one of the greatest actors of all time the award he rightfully deserves.
Dark Horse: David Owyelowo for Selma
Kidding! The Academy is a bunch of 70+ year old white guys.
Actual Dark Horse: I think this is a two person race between Redmayne and Keaton. If I had to pick anyone else I would have to go with Bradley Cooper for the overrated American Sniper. Pretending that plastic baby is real deserves its own acting award. I could also see Cumberbatch as a potential spoiler. Hell, Carell was amazing, too. Really strong group of actors this year.
Who takes your top actor Oscar?
I too haven't seen Into the Woods, i heard Meryl Streep was incredible in it but when has anyone ever heard she was "ehh" in anything. I have enormous respect for her career and talent but it's getting to be absurd how often she's nominated.
To me, this is one of the biggest locks of the night, and it should be.
Will win: Patricia Arquette, Boyhood
Easily one of my favorite performances of the year, a moving, honest and incredibly sustained performance that spans over a decade. Arquette was the heart and soul of arguably the best film of the year. The movie may have been about a boy but in the end it was his mother that made me reassess my own life.
Should win: Patricia Arquette, Boyhood
Emma Stone did strong, funny work in Birdman but I just don't think it'll be enough for a win. Keira Knighley was good in Imitation Game, a film I was no bowled over by. I am a huge Laura Dern fan so I was excited to see her sneak in for Wild, a movie I missed but still intend to check out. But Arquette has won every award out there for her career best performance and I will be rooting for her on Sunday.
Dark horse: Laura Dern has been an outstanding character actress for decades and I could see Oscar rewarding her here in what would be one of the biggest upsets in years. I haven't seen Wild but I know for a fact it has its passionate defenders and Dern is riding a wave of appreciation for her and family's acting dynasty. Still, I am sure Arquette will emerge victorious.
BW
We're 2 for 2 so far. Up next is Best Actor. We have a really strong group of performances and a major snub (*cough* *cough* Selma *cough*). I am really excited for this category. One of our favorite actors could finally get the recognition deserves after a career of amazing performances. Yes, Michael Keaton is up for Best Actor for his brilliant, somewhat self-reflective, performance in Birdman. Although, this IS the Oscars and we've seen actors get the shaft before (hello Bill Murray). Here are the nominees:
Steve Carell - Foxcatcher
AH
This is a pretty strong group but yes, there is just no excuse for the David Oyelowo snub, it's not about race it's about the performance and he easily gave one of the best of the year. In fact I would say alongside Keaton and Carell, those were my three favorite leading man roles this year. He "became" MLK, which is an incredible feat and he gave the character depth and nuance, not bad for a Brit playing such a quintessentially American role. I haven't seen The Theory of Everything and to be honest I'm not sure I want to. It felt like one of those movies where when you've seen the trailer you've seen the entire movie, and it just felt like A Beautiful Mind redux for me. I did see The Imitation Game and was kind of underwhelmed by it. I really like Benedict Cumberbatch as an actor, but he didn't do anything different for than he does on Sherlock and in several of his other roles. He's the charming jerk who eventually reveals his sensitive side. I'd love to see him stretch more, maybe do a comedy. Carell was magnificently creepy in Foxcatcher, Cooper was good in American Sniper but I don't think he deserves an Oscar for it, and although I'm biased because he's one of my favorite actors -- I think Keaton gave the performance of the year in Birdman.
Will win: Eddie Redmayne
I just have a bad feeling about this. Even though the Best Actor award normally skews older, the Academy always seems to be a sucker for physical transformation roles, personally I am a bigger fan of "the role of their lifetime" type of performances and to me that's why Keaton's fits like a glove, but to your point SAG wins are almost always the best predictor and Redmayne's victory there seems to suggest he is the favorite. I've heard he is terrific in the film and I don't doubt that but it seems like the kind of performance that won't be remembered decades from now.
Should win: Michael Keaton
Sure he's already won tons of accolades and acclaim for this performance but I don't think he gets enough props from the technical mastery of what he did. I just revisited Birdman last night and the acting chops you have to have to pull off the sustained 8 to 10 minute takes the film's unique style required is astronomical. Yes, the meta nature of the role is the hook but the emotional complexity and pathos of his performance make you forget all that stuff and view his character as a unique original creation instead of a riff on Keaton's career. His touching Globes speech was just a warm up act and I think more than any other race my heart is with him on this one.
Dark horse: Bradley Cooper
I feel like this film is too huge not to get rewarded somewhere and stranger things have happened. This year reminds me a bit of 2002 where everyone saw it as a race between Daniel Day Lewis (for Gangs of New York) and Jack Nicholson (for About Schmidt) and then Adrien Brody came out of nowhere and shocked the world (and Halle Berry, by giving her a long smooch at the podium). Even though American Sniper is divisive, Cooper is quickly become Hollywood's new golden boy and he has matured into a solid, likable leading man. I thought his work here was good but not exceptional, but he may have more momentum on his side than Keaton and Redmayne.
BW
That's 3 for 3 so far! We both smell an upset for Best Actor. I thought you were gonna call it for Keaton. It'll definitely be interesting in the one (and maybe only) category with a chance for drama to unfold.
Next up is our last acting category of the evening: Best Actress. Again, there doesn't seem to be much confusion as to who will win this year. It boils down to Julianne Moore and everybody else. She's cleaning up on the circuit and I don't see anyone else stopping her.
The nominees are:
Marion Cotillard - Two Days One Night
Felicity Jones - The Theory Of Everything
Julianne Moore - Still Alice
Rosamund Pike - Gone Girl
Reese Witherspoon - Wild
Who Will Win: Julianne Moore
In a down year for women, The Academy rewards one one buzzed about performance. For a short while I thought this was the year of the Reese Witherspoon renaissance. I haven't seen Wild yet, but I've heard good things about her character's story of self-discovery and redemption... And then the awards season kicked into high gear, and it's been all Moore all the time. She's won the SAG, the BAFTA, and the Golden Globe for her portrayal of a woman struggling with Alzheimers. There's no stopping this runaway train. Moore wins in a landslide.
Who Should Win: Julianne Moore
I'm basing this solely on the fact that since she's won everything else, she deserves the Oscar. Sadly, I haven't seen Still Alice yet, but I plan to when it comes out on home video.
Dark Horse: Rosamund Pike
You liked the movie more than I did. Pike does a formidable job of playing the titular gone girl. I wasn't wild about the movie, but it did major box office and I could see her as a possible dark horse candidate. Or do the voters give us a Theory Of Everything clean sweep with Felicity Jones? Assuming Eddie Redmayne wins as we are both predicting he will.
Who takes home your Oscar?
AH
Yeah I mean I want Keaton to win desperately and won't surprised if he does, but I am used to Oscar disappointing me, particularly in this category. I still can't believe Jean Dujardin won for The Artist when George Clooney gave perhaps his best performance of all time for The Descendants.
I am sad to say I have not seen most of the films featuring nominees for Best Actress -- that said, I don't think I'm far off when I say that this doesn't seem to be the strongest crop and the race seems anything but competitive. Perhaps if Reese Witherspoon hadn't already won (undeservedly in my opinion) she might have given frontrunner Julianne Moore a run for her money. But it seems like this is going to be the Julianne Moore lifetime achievement award. It doesn't seem like anyone else is even close to stealing her thunder.
Will Win: Julianne Moore
Moore has long been one of Hollywood's greatest actresses and she has been nominated several times and never won (even though she deserved the award when she made Far From Heaven and Boogie Nights). I have heard nothing but amazing things about her performance and she is certainly "due." And, gratefully, I've heard the performance is definitely worthy.
Should win: Julianne Moore
She seems to stand head and shoulders above the competition. I loved Rosamund Pike in Gone Girl, she gave a fun mainstream movie star type performance. I don't really know what Felicity Jones did that was all that special and both Witherspoon and Marianne Coiltiard have won fairly recently.
Dark Horse: Felicity Jones
Unlike Best Actor this category often honors up and coming ingenues, think Gwenyth Paltrow in Shakespeare in Love or Jennifer Lawrence in Silver Linings Playbook. I haven't heard anything exceptional about her performance but Hollywood loves to crown a new darling, seems like that's the spot she's filling here. Plus, to your earlier point, if there's a groundswell for Redmayne, she could ride in on his coattails.
BW
4 for 4 so far! Maybe we can disagree on these final two categories, where the outcome doesn't seem nearly as set in stone as the acting categories. First up is Best Director. It seems to be a two horse race between Richard Linklater for his time spanning opus, Boyhood, and Alejandro G. Inarritu for Birdman. Both movies required a monumental directing effort, and I think the race could go either way. I should also mention that I think we'll see a split between best picture and director this year.
Here are the nominees:
Alejandro G. Inarritu - Birdman
Richard Linklater - Boyhood
Bennett Miller - Foxcatcher
Wes Anderson - The Grand Budapest Hotel
Morten Tyldum - The Imitation Game
Will Win: Richard Linklater
It's my favorite movie of the year, and Linklater gets the nod for his amazing ability to craft a story that took 12 years to film. It's amazing that this movie even exists, let alone works so well. He basically had to craft the story on the fly to account for the shifting tides of technology, politics, etc. over a twelve year span. He gets the slight edge over Inarritu.
Should Win: Linklater or Inniritu
I won't be upset if either director walks away with the statue. Both did an amazing job.
Dark Horse: Wes Anderson
While I wasn't a huge fan of Grand Budapest, is this the year that the Academy finally comes around to Wes Anderson? If anyone could sneak in and upset the front runners, it's Anderson. The movie made a ton of money and has already done well on the awards circuit. My guess is that Anderson walks away with the script writing Oscar and gets left out of directing.
Who do you got?
AH
I don't think it's quite as close as you do -- but more on that in a second. This was the most heartbreaking category to me because of the omission of Ava DuVernay. The Best Actor race is always hyper competitive, so while I still think Oyelowo deserved a spot more than Copper, it's not like the greatest snub of all time. But the diss of DuVernay might be.She could have made history as the first woman of color and just the fifth woman overall to be nominated for Best Director. Her achievement with Selma was astounding, and although it was nominated for Best Picture, it feels like an afterthought. The movie deserved better.
I should also mention that I am not a fan of the "up to 10 movies for Best Picture" rule anymore. I liked it when it was first implemented because it allowed films that might not have gotten into the category in years prior a chance to shine. However, the more I look at it, it feels almost forced. Is a movie like American Sniper (and it's 74% Rotten Tomatoes score) really a best picture nominee? Or was it thrown in because Clint Eastwood make it and he automatically gets in. These past few years, it's felt like there have been movies that have squeezed their way in almost as a token nomination. What do you think... should we go back to the 5 movie rule, or do you like expanding the category to 10?
Boyhood
This is my personal favorite film of the year. I connected to this movie more than any movie I've seen in the past few years. It's a monumental achievement in directing, acting, script writing, editing, etc. It gets the nod this year.
Boyhood
For all the reasons I mentioned above, this is the one that should walk away with the big prize. Although I could make a case for Birdman as well.
Dark Horse:
Selma
Does the perceived "snubbed" movie get the victory (like Argo two years ago)? I could see this happening, but my guess is that it doesn't come anywhere close to knocking Boyhood off the pedestal.
I also think Morten Tyldum unexceptional work on The Imitation Game is unworthy of a spot here. He did a solid, competent job, but I feel like this should be a category for auteurs. Hell, even if Clint Eastwood were here it would make more sense because he made a film that really reflected his vision. I think the other four are definitely worthy, great filmmakers. And although I would be surprised if he eeked out a win, I am personally thrilled to finally see Wes Anderson get recognized by the Academy. His slow but steady rise as a commercial force has been one of the most fascinating recent developments out of Hollywood. That said...
Will win: Richard Linklater
It would be a mistake to award Linklater just for his achievement of making a moving, coherent film over 12 years. He's not the first, or the last direct to try an experiment like this. It's simply the best film of the year, and impressive directorial vision that is epic in scope and feeling. He is picking up pretty much every precursor and his body of work makes him a shoo-in for the award.
Should win: Richard Linklater
For pretty much all the reasons stated above. He made a movie that was both uniquely personal and yet had universal appeal. It also just feels like the culmination of all this prior work. Directors sometimes don't win for their signature films, it would be a shame for that to happen here.
Dark Horse: Wes Anderson
The quirky filmmaker has a lot of devoted fans, and I count myself among them. I actually didn't think Grand Budapest was his strongest work, I liked it, but I think Moonrise Kingdom was superior for instance. But for whatever reason, this film was a real hit with audiences, and critics who usually are very polarized on Anderson. It's strong showing among the nominations suggests a lot of support for him and his film, so if there's going to be an upset, it could be here.
BW
Ah, yes. I can't believe I forgot to mention the biggest Oscar snub. DuVernay's omission from the directing category was the most glaring snub in this year's field. Selma was a brilliantly directed film and the historical implications of her would be nomination make this snub hurt the most. I agree that it deserved better. I haven't seen The Imitation Game, but from all accounts it seems like a quality, but by the numbers, biopic. I'll have to wait and see to pass final judgment.
It's time for the big award: Best Picture. We have a crowded field, but to me, it feels like it could go one of two ways. Birdman or Boyhood. I feel like Boyhood is the premier film this year for all of the reasons you mentioned. I should also mention that I am not a fan of the "up to 10 movies for Best Picture" rule anymore. I liked it when it was first implemented because it allowed films that might not have gotten into the category in years prior a chance to shine. However, the more I look at it, it feels almost forced. Is a movie like American Sniper (and it's 74% Rotten Tomatoes score) really a best picture nominee? Or was it thrown in because Clint Eastwood make it and he automatically gets in. These past few years, it's felt like there have been movies that have squeezed their way in almost as a token nomination. What do you think... should we go back to the 5 movie rule, or do you like expanding the category to 10?
The nominees for Best Picture are:
American Sniper
Birdman
Boyhood
The Grand Budapest Hotel
The Imitation Game
Selma
The Theory Of Everything
Whiplash
Will Win:
Boyhood
This is my personal favorite film of the year. I connected to this movie more than any movie I've seen in the past few years. It's a monumental achievement in directing, acting, script writing, editing, etc. It gets the nod this year.
Should Win:
Boyhood
For all the reasons I mentioned above, this is the one that should walk away with the big prize. Although I could make a case for Birdman as well.
Dark Horse:
Selma
Does the perceived "snubbed" movie get the victory (like Argo two years ago)? I could see this happening, but my guess is that it doesn't come anywhere close to knocking Boyhood off the pedestal.
That's it for me. Who wins your Best Picture Oscar?
I'd also like to thank you for participating again this year. I really enjoy these back and forth exchanges. I'd also like to mention that I love reading your blog. I don't get to go to the movies as much as I like these days and I live vicariously through your reviews. You are really gifted with your commentary on all things Hollywood. Keep up the good work. Let's keep these exchanges going in the future.
AH
AH
I too liked the expansion idea at first -- particularly after The Dark Knight was inexplicably snubbed in 2008 -- but it clearly deserved a spot in the final five, instead of the dreary The Reader. I think you're right, this experiment hasn't worked. Sure some quirkier gems have gotten best picture nominations but even year since 2009 there have been five clear favorites and a bunch of also-rans. Like I am still shaking my head over The Blind Side getting a best picture nomination. I didn't like American Sniper for a host of reasons, it was entertainment and interesting in its ineptitude, but I don't think it belongs here. I feel the same way about The Imitation Game, I haven't seen The Theory of Everything but I've heard -- frequently -- that movie is just ok, not great. Of this group I would narrow it down to: Selma, Birdman, Boyhood, Whiplash and The Grand Budapest Hotel.
And I think Foxcatcher should have made the cut instead of Whiplash. Whiplash is a terrific little movie, but I just thought Foxcatcher has more to offer in terms of an all-encompassing film going experience.
That said, the nominees are what they are...
Will Win:
Boyhood
This race is actually incredibly close for me, and I've been thinking more and more that Birdman might triumph, it's still buzzy and still in theaters, whereas Boyhood had its biggest impact last summer. I've also increasingly heard quibbles about the film from some people. That said, it was the most acclaimed American film of last year and it has enough momentum left to eek out a victory.
Should Win:
Boyhood
It's tough, my heart is with Selma but my head is with Boyhood. If Birdman won I wouldn't be appalled but those two were the films that really stayed with me emotionally long after I saw them. I think Boyhood is a stunning achievement and just a profoundly smart take on a whole generation. Selma is more modest in scope, but no less compelling.
Dark Horse:
Birdman
It has a slew of precursors and nominations, it clearly resonates with the Hollywood community and it's innovative to boot. I am becoming more and more convinced that it could be a great night for this magic realism mishmash of a movie and maybe only because Boyhood peaked too soon. I think the Academy thinks it did its job for racial harmony last year by begrudgingly picking the phenomenal 12 Years a Slave to win best picture, I think American Sniper is too polarizing, The Theory of Everything and The Imitation Game are too slight and Whiplash is too small. Grand Budapest Hotel is kind of hanging around and could be a spoiler but I feel like its too whimsical a movie to be a best picture winner. Needless to say this is going to be a potentially surprising finale.
Thank you for the compliments, it means a lot!
Thank you for the compliments, it means a lot!
BW
So there you have it folks. We are in agreement on every category. Tune in to the Oscars to see how we do.
Until next year...